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Does your Plane: On This Page:
a) Fly like a brick instead of a feather?
b) Accelerate in the downlines instead of maintain a slow speed?
c) Snap with high elevator instead of flip?
d) Hover at 3/4 throttle instead of at idle?
e) Lumber out of a torque roll instead of rocket up out of sight?
f) Lose speed in the vertical ascents instead of accelerate?
g) Rock back and forth in a Harrier instead of being rock solid?
h) Fall like a rock in a Parachute instead of stopping on a dime?
i) Mush through a wall instead of banging into it?
j) Land like a tank instead of bird?
Weights To Shoot For

Bad Ways To Save Weight

Sukhoi Example

Extra 330 Example

"Hop Up" Items

Package For a Typical 40%

If you answered yes to any of these questions, then guess what? Your plane is too heavy! Fortunately for you, TBM specializes in making your airplane lighter!! We have collected the best products from around the globe for lightening overweight aircraft.

Sure, putting in a bigger engine will resolve some of the issues, but other aspects will get worse, especially the slow 3D maneuvers. Your plane is too heavy from a variety of reasons. There isn't one component that you can change to magically transform your lead sled into a competitive IMAC competitor or a nimble 3D killer machine, but don't worry, we can help. 

The parts which are too heavy on your plane are probably everything but the servo wire, control horns, fuel tank, links and covering. Yes, your fuselage, canopy, tail feathers, wings, tires, wheelpants, cowl, wing tube, stab tube, tailwheel assembly, pilot, landing gear, spinner, instrument panel, batteries and maybe your engine are too heavy. Some things you can change easily, some are more difficult, and some are just not worth the time and expense. You determine the time and money you want to invest to improve your plane's performance.

IMPORTANT NOTE: We just mentioned 16 culprits of an overweight plane. To obtain a light plane, you must lighten many components. If you lightened each component by just one ounce, you would save a pound of weight in your plane. Save 2 ounces per part and you've saved 2 pounds, and 3 ounces is three pounds. Lightening just a few parts won't have a profound effect on your plane's performance, so either do many things, or don't do anything at all.


Pick up a half gallon of milk. It weighs about 4 pounds. Your 1/3 scale plane could be hauling around more weight than that unnecessarily. Think about how much better your plane will fly without that excess weight. Typical 40% planes are 10 pounds heavier than they should be. Most of the excess weight is in the fuselage, hatch area, cowl, and landing gear.

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Some weights to shoot for if you want the ultimate in performance:

72" wingspan (40 cc engine class) - 11 lbs.
80" wingspan (50 cc engine class) - 13 lbs.
96" wingspan (80cc engine class) - 18 lbs.
103" wingspan (100 cc engine class) - 21 lbs.
118" wingspan (150 cc engine class) - 27 lbs.
123" wingspan ( 160 cc engine class) - 31 lbs.

 

Planes in these classes could weigh in at these weights if they were designed and built with light weight in mind. Careful attention to every detail is necessary to achieve these weights. There are a few aircraft companies which offer aircraft which can be built to the weights listed above. Most of the other manufacturers' aircraft, whether they are kits, ARF's or ARC's, produce sport planes which can be lightened but will never be exceptionally light planes without major changes to the cowl, fuselage, wings and tailfeathers. You can reasonably  lighten planes so far before thinking about a new airplane altogether.

Planes of these weights must be carefully designed and tested. Strength is required in areas of high stress, and these areas are often defined through field testing of prototypes. We don't recommend that you take a hole saw to your current airplane unless you know what you are doing because you could weaken it and the results could be disastrous.

The weights of the planes described above are achieved by stripping off all unnecessary components such as pilot, instrument panel, and wheelpants and the use of standard mufflers rather than canister mufflers, wooden propellers, light cowl, CF parts, Li Ion batteries and more. An airplane which is the ultimate in light weight must be designed in at the very beginning, however, trying to do the best you can with the airplane you have can have very positive results.

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BAD WAYS TO SAVE WEIGHT:

1) Don't lighten the wings. It may well be possible to take weight out of the wings, but many planes, especially ARF's, have had a preponderance of wing failures.
2) Don't eliminate your redundant Rx battery pack and switch harness. Though tempting, we recommend the use of two batteries and two switches in Giant Scale aircraft.

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SUKHOI EXAMPLE:

We modified a Hangar 9 1/3 scale Sukhoi ARF for Tom Smith of the Sarasota Florida club. This plane typically  weighs 26.5 pounds with a Zenoah GT-80. We were able to save over 5 pounds to bring the weight down to 21 3/4 pounds. This weight includes a redundant battery and switch system (5 ounces) and pilot. The plane could be made 1/2 pound lighter (21 1/4 pounds) by simply removing these two items.
 

Modification Stock Item Weight saved

AI "foam" H9 Pilot 3 oz
CF 4" spinner Aluminum spinner 4 oz
TBM  Li Ion Batteries

Ni Cad batteries

8 oz

No wheelpants (per full scale)

H9 wheelpants

5 oz

TBM CF landing gear 

H9 aluminum landing gear

10 oz

TBM CF Tailwheel

Steel tailwheel

2 oz

ZDZ 80 cc engine

Zenoah 445 80 cc engine

20 oz

Lightened hatch area**

Removed floor and such

6 oz

Lightened fuse**

Lightened motor box and formers 

4 oz

TBM CF wing tube

Aluminum wing tube

3 oz

Removed Ballast** 

Lead ballast in nose to balance

12 oz

Kavan 4" tires

Sullivan Skylite tires

4 oz

 

Total weight saved over stock:   

81 oz (5 lb 1 oz)

  
The plane could be even lighter if the wing was built with lighter balsa and less plywood, the fuselage had less plywood and more balsa, the cowl was produced from thinner fiberglass, and the ailerons were stiffer to be able to use only one servo per wing instead of two, the hatch was built with balsa instead of plywood and aluminum, and more. With the redesign and only one Rx battery and switch, no pilot and such the weight would be closer to 18 pounds. None the less, at 21 3/4 pounds the plane flies dramatically better.

**Lightening of the fuselage and using a lighter engine and eliminating ballast was accomplished by moving the wing rearward 2", and using a single servo pull-pull system to move the CG forward.


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EXTRA 330 EXAMPLE

We modified a Hangar 9 1/3 scale Extra 330 ARF for Brian Jantzen of the Sarasota Florida club. This plane originally weighed 27.5 pounds. We were able to save 2 3/4 pounds to bring the weight down to 24 3/4 pounds.
 

Item 

Weight saved

Hatch: Eliminated pilot, instrument panels, hatch floor, added lightening holes

11 oz

CF 4" spinner replaced Aluminum spinner 

2.5 oz

Two 2200 mah TBM  Li Ion Batteries replaced two 2700 mah NiMh batteries

7 oz

Removed wheelpants

6 oz

TBM CF landing gear replaced H9 aluminum landing gear       

10 oz

TBM CF tailwheel replaced steel tailwheel for improved performance

0 oz

Lightened landing gear cover

1 oz

TBM CF wing tube replaced H9 aluminum wing tube

3 oz

Kavan 3.5" tires replaced stock tires

3 oz

 
Total weight saved over stock:

43.5 oz (2 3/4 lb.)


Again, the plane could be even lighter if the wing was built with lighter balsa and less plywood, the fuselage had less plywood and more balsa, the cowl was produced from thinner fiberglass, and the ailerons were stiffer to be able to use only one servo per wing instead of two, the hatch was built with balsa instead of plywood and aluminum, and more. With the redesign and only one Rx battery and switch, no pilot and such the weight would be closer to 18 pounds. To avoid a tail heavy condition which would require moving the wing tube rearward for balancing, we did not lighten the motor box or use a lighter engine or mufflers.

 

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"HOP UP" ITEMS

Following are items which will take weight out of your aircraft. Combining these components with careful lightening of the airframe itself will result in an aircraft which is much more pleasant to fly.

1/3 Scale Package        Actual Weight Approximate Weight Savings
AI "foam" pilot   1 oz 2 - 3 oz
CF 4" spinner 3.1 oz  2 - 4 oz
Three TBM  Li Ion Batteries (2200 mah) 10.5 oz (3 packs) 8 - 14 oz
TBM CF landing gear 10 oz (varies)  6 - 12 oz
TBM CF Tailwheel  (22 lb.)   1.2 oz 0 - 2 oz
TBM CF wing tube  (3') 6.9 oz   3 oz
Kavan tires (3 1/2")  3 oz 3 oz
  
Total Savings:   about 2 lbs.

Other Items you may need:
MPI Miracle Switches w/ 6V regulator
Li Ion Charger

Other EASY ways to Save More Weight:  Possible Savings
Lighten hatch area  (very easy to do) 6 - 10 oz
Lighten fuse 4 - 10 oz
Remove pilot 3 - 6 oz
Remove wheelpants 3 - 5 oz


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Package for a typical 40% scale airplane
40% Scale Package

Actual Weight

Approximate Weight Savings  
CF 5" spinner 4 oz       3 - 6 oz
Three TBM  Li Ion Batteries 17.5 oz (3 packs) 8 - 32 oz
TBM CF landing gear 12 oz (varies) 6 - 16 oz
TBM CF Tailwheel  (40 lb.) 2.8 oz 1 - 3 oz
TBM CF wing tube  (3') 6.9 oz 3 oz
Kavan tires (3 1/2") 3 oz  3 oz
 
Total Savings:   almost 3 lbs.

Other Items you may need:
MPI Miracle Switches w/ 6V regulator
Li Ion Charger

Other ways to Save More Weight: Possible Savings
Lighten hatch area 8 - 14 oz
Lighten fuse 6 - 15 oz
Remove pilot 3 - 6 oz
Remove wheelpants  4 - 7 oz
Use bolt on mufflers vs canister mufflers 18 oz

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